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Non-Seismic UR Swans with Skred
Posted On: 04/25/2008 08:45:43

Here's what I've been working on for the new Type 2.

// Lands
1 [CS] Snow-Covered Plains
4 [10E] Shivan Reef
4 [10E] Terramorphic Expanse
3 [CS] Boreal Shelf
6 [CS] Snow-Covered Island
7 [CS] Snow-Covered Mountain

// Creatures
4 [SHM] Swans of Bryn Argoll
4 [TSP] Riftwing Cloudskate
3 [10E] Siege-Gang Commander
2 [FUT] Venser, Shaper Savant
4 [CS] Phyrexian Ironfoot

// Spells
2 [10E] Tidings
4 [CS] Coldsteel Heart
4 [CS] Rune Snag
4 [CS] Skred
4 [10E] Incinerate

// Sideboard
SB: 2 [TSP] Draining Whelk
SB: 3 [TSB] Teferi's Moat
SB: 4 [9E] Bottle Gnomes
SB: 3 [SHM] Puncture Bolt
SB: 3 [TSP] Cancel

It's a deck loosely based around Swans of Bryn Argoll and Skred. It's fairly similar to Mannequin, Blink, or similar midrange blue decks. It doesn't play tempo quite as well as Blink but it has a lot of blowout turns where you Skred your Swan and draw 7, basically letting you scuplt your hand however you want.

I chose to splash White instead of Green because I'd rather have Teferi's Moat than Firespout. Yes, Firespout has great synergy with Swans, and I may end up playing it in the end, but right now I like Teferi's Moat more in the format. But like I said, it's up for debate.

I think this is superior to the Seismic Assault combo decks because Swans can win the game on their own, and playing the combo forces you to play cards that are not so hot on their own. Also, I think crap like Idyllic Tutor is terrible. If I'm going to spend mana, I'd rather interact with my opponent than just tutor. Furthermore, I think the combo is fairly tough to protect from disruption.

I played two matches last night, against Rg Tarmoburn and RG Big Mana and won them both. Against Big Mana you just let them Skred your Swans and draw as many cards as they want, as long as you counter their Cloudthreshers they have no way to stop him from killing them in 5 turns. It becomes a race which IMO is completely winnable.  Against Rg Tarmoburn I just bounced his guys and played the tempo game until I could find a Swans.  His build was pretty creature-heavy, which I think is pretty typical lately.  So when I dropped Swans he mostly just drew some three-drops, and I was able to outtempo those fairly easily.  Both matches were 2-1, which is pretty sweet considering those are probably two of the most-hyped/best decks in the new format. 

I might cut a Boreal Shelf, the mana should be fine and sometimes it slows you down. Feel free to experiment. There's plenty of tuning to be done but I was pretty happy with the way this first build performed.



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From: aceben3
04/29/2008 18:40:28
If anything, O-Ring would be my first choice of White cards.

From: aceben3
04/29/2008 18:40:08
Riftwatcher would be nice but I don't think I want white cards main, I think it would mess up the manabase too bad.

From: Destroyer51
04/29/2008 09:46:06

i hear what you're saying about snow lands, but with boreal shelf and terramorphic expanse, they all come in tapped anyway, so you might as well run a fourth shelf at least and maybe cut one expanse for it.

aven riftwatcher helps against RDW and against faeries.

i played 4 sulf blasts and 3 pyrohemia main (preshadowmoor). eot cast sulf blast and they counter it, then you play pyrohemia on your turn. provided you have further mana open you can wipe out their team right there. 

From: Balthazar
04/29/2008 02:38:13
Some Sulfurous Blast main or at least SB would help out against Fearies thou'...


From: namegoeshere
04/29/2008 02:15:34
More burn would help the faeries match up, the new pyroclasm etc

From: aceben3
04/28/2008 22:03:09

wow someone is actually constructive on the internet, wtf?

but seriously, nice post.  i still think the manaramp matchup is fine, especially since you board in more counterspells and can always just skred their threshers.  the faeries matchup is sick bad though.  not much i can really do there other than just scrap the deck or find some way to beat down which isn't all that feasible.  this is the type of deck faeries preys on so there's only so much i can do.  not sure yet what kind of card draw i want, i did consider foresee but i'm not sure right now.  i'm not TOO interested in this deck unless red decks push faeries out of the metagame. 



From: Balthazar
04/28/2008 09:49:54

Pretty good list you got there. Those Tidings should probobly be Careful Consideration or Forsee in my oppinion, as it seems much better to have that carddraw type at 4 mana instead of 5.

But I think your clearly overrating the Mana Ramp matchup, specialy since you have only played one game it seems. "Counter the Cloudthreshers and your fine" doesn't sounds like a strategy that is going to work in the long run. Further on I also fail to see how your are going to win against Fearies, which is IMO the most relevant deck in the enviroment as I speak.

From: aceben3
04/25/2008 10:14:55
the problem with cutting expanse and playing 6 painlands is that you will sometimes get draws where your skreds aren't very good.  you really need to keep the snow land count as high as possible to ensure good skreds.  also, 6 painlands can make you take too much damage sometimes.  pyrohemia is interesting, hmmm. 


From: Destroyer51
04/25/2008 09:06:38

i like this idea better than the combo deck. i actually was testing a WRu blink deck pre-shadowmoor with lightning angel as the finisher. as soon as i saw swans i knew it was the replacement. i had pyrhemia in there, and pyrohemia + swans makes it R: draw a card.

if you cut terramorphic expanse, and leave in boreal shelf, you will usually be able to play it on turn 1 and not have to worry about it slowing you down. -4 expanse, +1 shelf, +2 battlefield forge (maybe) or just make them basic lands.




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