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Other Top Eight Possibilities
Posted On 05/12/2008 17:04:03 by Charlesovery - Read 75816 time(s)

Last time I wrote about some deck lists that have the potential of being top eight contenders. However, I didn’t have enough time to discuss all of them so here are the rest to round it all out.

 

Merfolk

 

4 Cursecatcher

4 Lord of Atlantis

4 Merrow Reejerey

4 Silvergill Adept

4 Stonybrook Banneret

 

2 Aquitect’s Will

4 Cryptic Command

3 Mirrowweave

4 Ponder

4 Sage’s Dousing

 

4 Adarkar Wastes

10 Island

4 Mutavault

1 Mystic Gate

4 Wanderwine Hub

 

Sideboard

 

4 Burrenton Forge-tender

4 Remove Soul

3 Sower of Temptation

4 Unsummon

 

The Merfolk decks are all fast and very consistent. The only deck that really rivals this deck is Reveillark. Faeries and this deck go back and forth. If the Merfolks gets a good army with islandwalk the faeries deck usually just concedes and moves onto the next game. Cryptic Command and Mistbind Clique are essentially the only weapons it has against Merfolk.

 

U/B/W Blink Reveillark

 

4 Aven Riftwatcher

1 Body Double

1 Mirror Entity

4 Mulldrifter

3 Reveillark

2 Sower of Temptation

2 Venser, Shaper Savant

 

4 Ancestral Vision

4 Bitterblossom

4 Mind Stone

3 Momentary Blink

3 Wrath of God

 

3 Adarkar Wastes

3 Caves of Koilos

5 Island

2 Mystic Gate

4 Plains

4 Underground River

2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

2 Wanderwine Hub

 

This is the only Reveillark deck that actually performed okay during our playtesting. Still it lost the gang of cards such as, Extirpate, Tarmod’s Crypt, Wheel of Sun and Moon, and Primal Command. Essentially those cards cover the entire magic color spectrum. I believe that Reveillark is pretty much a dead deck do to all the hate in the format against it. As you can see Faeries is not the only thing bad for Reveillark in the format. However with inclusion of Bitterblossom this deck actually does have a better game against faeries.

 

G/W Glittering Wish (a.k.a. Wishin’ Finks by Ruebs11)

 

1 Akroma. Angel of Wrath

1 Chameleon Colossus

3 Cloudthresher

1 Crovax, Ascendant Hero

3 Kitchen Finks

2 Oversoul of Dusk

4 Tarmogoyf

4 Wall of Roots

 

4 Into the North

2 Garruk Widspeaker

3 Glittering Wish

2 Harmonize

2 Primal Command

2 Search for Tomorrow

3 Wrath of God

 

4 Arctic Flats

1 Boreal Shelf

2 Mouth of Ronom

1 Snow-covered Island

6 Snow-covered Forest

4 Snow-covered Plains

1 Snow-covered Swamp

4 Treetop Village

 

Sideboard

1 Cloudthresher

1 Harmonic Sliver

1 Kitchen Finks

3 Krosan Grip

1 Mystic Enforcer

1 Necrotic Sliver

1 Oversoul of Dusk

1 Primal Command

1 Teferi’s Moat

2 Vexing Shuser

1 Wheel of Sun and Moon

1 Wrath of God

 

This build has a lot utility in the sideboard for a lot of different decks. In our playtesting this deck was the best deck out of all those including faeries. However, this deck does have a hard time stopping the Swans/ Assault deck. Krosan Grip and Harmonic Sliver is not enough as it lost out 3-7 in a ten game match.

 

Seismic Swans By: Patrick Chapin

 

3 Swans of Bryn Argoll

1 Vexing Shusher

 

1 Abundance

4 Beseech the Queen

1 Fertile Ground

1 Firespout

2 Gaea’s Blessing

4 Glittering Wish

2 Idyllic Tutor

4 Lotus Bloom

1 Oblivion Ring

1 Raking Canopy

4 Seismic Assault

2 Sylvan Scrying

1 Teferi’s Moat


1 Caves Koilos
4 Dakmor Salvage

3 Gemstone Mine

1 Gravern Cairns

4 Grove of the Burnwillows

4 Horizon Canopy

1 Molten Slagheap

4 Reflecting Pools

1 River of Tears

1 Vivid Crag

1 Vivid Grove

4 Vivid Meadow

1 Wooded Bastion

 

Sideboard

 

1 Firespout

1 Gaddock Teeg

1 Guttural Response

1 Harmonic Sliver

2 Kitchen Finks

1 Manamorphose

1 Swans of Bryn Argoll

1 Teferi’s Moat

3 Vexing Shusher

1 Void

1 Wheel of Sun and Moon

1 Zur the Enchanter

 

This deck is very hard to play so I don’t recommend it to those that haven’t played intricate decks before. I personally like this build better than any other just because it actually has answers to every thing out there as right now. If there is going to be a combo deck in the new standard format then I believe this is it. It’s essentially better than the “Good Evening” decks and it out races Dragonstorm by a turn and a half.

 

R/G Beats

 

4 Boggart Ram-Gang

2 Chameleon Colossus

4 Keldon Marauders

4 Mogg Fanatic

4 Tarmogoyf

4 Tattermunge Maniac

4 Wall of Roots

 

4 Flame Javelin

4 Incinerate

4 Rift Bolt

 

2 Desert

3 Fire-lit Thicket

6 Forest

4 Karplusan Forest

4 Mountains

3 Treetop Village

 

Sideboard

 

2 Cloudthresher

3 Firespout

4 Kavu Predator

4 Krosan Grip

2 Sulfurous Blast

 

I personally believe that this decklist needs to be tweaked to be a better deck but it still performed pretty well, especially against faeries and merfolk. However, ever one of the decks that G/W and has Kitchen Finks in it is huge problem for this deck. Even though you sideboard in Kavu Predator, the G/W deck list plays around him with all the other threats that the R/G Aggro deck just can’t keep up. That makes the burn spell essentially dead cards because the Tarmogoyf gets bigger quicker and was pulling two for one.

 

This is all there is. I’m sure I’m missing something anyway. I don’t know what deck is the best deck in format. Faeries have some serious contenders now and there stands decks that no one really knows how they are going to perform under pressure at Hollywood. I personally think that the final match up will be U/B Faeries and G/W Glittering Wish or G/W Big Mana, Mana Ramp, or whatever the hell you want to call it.

 

That’s my opinion.

 

Charles

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05/13/2008 17:34:31

aaadawgie wrote:

2 possibilities to add to the deck:


1.  quirion dryad (almost everything is red)


2.  sudden shock: great burn spell that is going to get stronger in a nonbasic heavy deck with the popularity of fulminator mage. 



Quirion Dryad is an interesting choice. In another decklist we tried her out and found that she dies to easily to black removal spells. However, in a list like this she does get big pretty quick and that is always a good thing. Eventually, at times, she may be able to add up to a tarmogoyf. This may allow my other big fatties to sustain the board after a few Terror or shriekmaw, Thus meaning that she would be the target for those instead of other creatures that are on the board. 

Sudden shock is weak against the field though. We found this out when we playtested it with mono red, or RDW. The issue is that it's not going to kill a whole of threats that are out there and I believe that this is the reason that it hasn't been played for some time now. The Split Second ability is always attractive and will for sure be applicable in the standard format right now. The effectiveness of Sudden Shock does not give the advantage that it should in either a red build or an aggro build. Yes it good against Fulminator Mage but whether he is going to see alot of play still remains to been seen. There's a lot of debate about this guy. 


05/13/2008 12:43:48

2 possibilities to add to the deck:

1.  quirion dryad (almost everything is red)

2.  sudden shock: great burn spell that is going to get stronger in a nonbasic heavy deck with the popularity of fulminator mage. 



05/12/2008 21:28:35

RoninX wrote:

Good follow up. Something pretty similar to your merfolk list T8'd at the SCG $5k 


 


Whats with the walls of roots in the G/R beatdown? Those seem like a prime place to start the tweaking. You have too many two drops and not enough 4 drops to want to skip and offensive threat on turn two in order to get 4 mana on turn 3.


 


Desert over Mutavault also seems odd... though perhaps you are hating on faeries with that selection.



Thank you. I just saw that a merfolk deck topped eight on their website. It sure does seem close to the same build just a couple number differences.

As for the tweaking...great suggestions as we haven't thought the Walls through they were just in for controlling other aggro decks. What would you recommend for the change?

Desert is in for hating on faeries. Since we have Tretop Village we felt that Mutavault could be replaced with better maindeck hate faerie card.


05/12/2008 18:12:08

Good follow up. Something pretty similar to your merfolk list T8'd at the SCG $5k 

 

Whats with the walls of roots in the G/R beatdown? Those seem like a prime place to start the tweaking. You have too many two drops and not enough 4 drops to want to skip and offensive threat on turn two in order to get 4 mana on turn 3.

 

Desert over Mutavault also seems odd... though perhaps you are hating on faeries with that selection.





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